[gpfsug-discuss] GPFS Independent Fileset Limit vs Quotas?

Marc A Kaplan makaplan at us.ibm.com
Tue Aug 14 16:31:15 BST 2018


True, mmbackup is designed to work best backing up either a single 
independent fileset or the entire file system.  So if you know some 
filesets do not need to be backed up, map them to one or more indepedent 
filesets that will not be backed up. 

mmapplypolicy is happy to scan a single dependent fileset, use option 
--scope fileset and make the primary argument the path to the root of the 
fileset you wish to scan.   The overhead is not simply described.   The 
directory scan phase will explore or walk the (sub)tree in parallel with 
multiple threads on multiple nodes, reading just the directory blocks that 
need to be read.

The inodescan phase will read blocks of inodes from the given inodespace 
...  since the inodes of dependent filesets may be "mixed" into the same 
blocks as other dependend filesets that are in the same independent 
fileset, mmapplypolicy will incur what you might consider "extra" 
overhead.




From:   "Peinkofer, Stephan" <Stephan.Peinkofer at lrz.de>
To:     gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org>
Date:   08/14/2018 12:50 AM
Subject:        Re: [gpfsug-discuss] GPFS Independent Fileset Limit vs 
Quotas?
Sent by:        gpfsug-discuss-bounces at spectrumscale.org



Dear Marc,


If you "must" exceed 1000 filesets because you are assigning each project 
to its own fileset, my suggestion is this:

Yes, there are scaling/performance/manageability benefits to using 
mmbackup over independent filesets.

But maybe you don't need 10,000 independent filesets -- 
maybe you can hash or otherwise randomly assign projects that each have 
their own (dependent) fileset name to a lesser number of independent 
filesets that will serve as management groups for (mm)backup...

OK, if that might be doable, whats then the performance impact of having 
to specify Include/Exclude lists for each independent fileset in order to 
specify which dependent fileset should be backed up and which one not?
I don’t remember exactly, but I think I’ve heard at some time, that 
Include/Exclude and mmbackup have to be used with caution. And the same 
question holds true for running mmapplypolicy for a “job” on a single 
dependent fileset? Is the scan runtime linear to the size of the 
underlying independent fileset or are there some optimisations when I just 
want to scan a subfolder/dependent fileset of an independent one?

Like many things in life, sometimes compromises are necessary!

Hmm, can I reference this next time, when we negotiate Scale License 
pricing with the ISS sales people? ;)

Best Regards,
Stephan Peinkofer
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